The need to hear the voice of Jesus himself..

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Many persons   read what others write or hear what others say and they next even do  recopy them as supposedly being God’s truths.

They thus may point out some truths to others but their own lives are still in error, great danger of going to hell even. as God’s word and His Spirit are still really not a part of their own life.

lf you mainly have to rely on mere men, or your own mind, your own wisdom over the Holy Spirit firstly to find, understand spiritual truths you are already in big big trouble.

The false Demotion of the Holy Spirit, Jesus .. Jesus had said that without Him and his Holy Spirit you can do nothing.. nothing everlasting, or significant too. yet people falsely do try to Divorce the Holy Spirit or try to substitute the Holy Spirit with false doctrines, vanities still to day  http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus-2/

Acts 2:17 (Peter quoting Joel 2:28) ”‘And it shall come to pass in the last days,’ says God, ‘That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh. Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy. Your young men shall see visions, your old men shall dream dreams. And on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days.’”

It is possible today to hear God’s voice, either audibly or in one‘s spirit, to be guided by God in a dream, to have a vision, to be directed in ministry, and to be called to ministry by the leading of the Holy Spirit.

Many persons have a godly desire to serve the Lord Jesus Christ and they want to become Apostles, Prophets pastors-teachers, evangelism, elders. The best way they can prepare themselves for this is firstly giving themselves all unto God and next learning to hear God speaking to them..   Do you want to hear God’s voice? Then spend more time prayerfully in His Word the Bible. A good rule is that the more you are in God’s Word, the more His Word will be familiar to you. it will enable you to recognize His voice, because you are already listening to Him from day to day as you read the Word of God.  There still now  is only one Holy Spirit. He wrote the Word of God, 2 Timothy 3:16 tells us. He does not speak against Himself, He does not deny Himself and He never contradicts Himself. Therefore ANY guidance you get from the Holy Spirit  must be consistent with God’s Word. If it is not, then throw it out. No matter how lovely, how spiritual, or how convincing a prophecy, vision, dream or experience may be, if that experience is not consistent with God’s Word and character, then DO NOT ACCEPT IT. ALSO DO ASK GOD TO RECONFIRM IT AGAIN TO YOU.. HE DOES NOT AT ALL MIND DOING THAT.

Galatians 1:9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

Throw out a bad word, even if you’ve seen an angel!

2 Corinthians 11:14 …For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.

Remember that Satan can do miracles, Exodus 7:11-12, 22; 8:7, he can even too often also  quote God’s Word, Matt. 4:1-10, and he can even appear as an angel, 2 Cor. 11:14.

EVERY word received, whatever the source should ALWAYS be tested by God’s Word. NO EXCEPTIONS. To accept any word that is inconsistent with God’s Word is to open yourself to serious deception.

Surprising now really how many professing Christian people do not still hear God personally speaking to them. It is Tragic that most so called Christians don’t hear the voice of God and are not really led by him at all. As they really don’t wait upon the Lord including Pentecostals. The fruit of love is associated with all of God’s revelations all the time too.

Our problem, of course, is that we can hear more than one voice. Realize that there are three sources of guidance:

First, and most likely, your own voice. This can be the voice of your soul–your mind, your will and your emotions. Included are the “tapes” you may have left over from childhood, voices from the past that have been deeply embedded into your soul.

Second, there is the voice of the enemy, probably not Satan, as there is only one of him and he is not omnipresent. But certainly Satan assigns demons against Christians, and these demons can interject thoughts into a person’s mind, even if they are Christian. Remember that Satan tempted Jesus, Matt. 4:1-10, and therefore can also tempt you. Most demonic directives come with craftiness and a negative emotion, such as fear, despair, confusion, a feeling of isolation, or even pride. A demon can interject a thought into your head, something like, “I’m so sick and tired of…” or, “I hate such and such….” These can be discerned.

Third, there is God’s voice, who may speak Himself, or may speak through your spirit, Prov. 20:27: The spirit of a man is the lamp of the Lord, searching all the inner depths of his heart.

How to get God’s guidance? Ask for it. Spend time in prayer. Ask the Holy Spirit to remind you of His word, and to lead you and guide in all truth, John 14:26. Remind yourself that God does promise you His guidance:

Psalm 32:8 I will instruct you and teach you in the way you should go; I will guide you with My eye.

I still need to deal with my own mind, will and emotions, however! I quote verses like Galatians 5:24, that I am crucifying my flesh with all its passions and desires. I choose to be dead to self. I also tell God all my own great ideas and tell Him that I am putting these on the altar. I tell Him that I will not act on any of these ideas unless I know that He is giving them to me. I choose to wait, and listen. This may take days, and even longer. There is a test here–am I willing to wait on God? But many times I hear from God quickly, and I know the answer in my spirit.

So now do not hesitate at any time to ask God to personally speak to you too.

(1 Sam 3:10 KJV) And the LORD came, and stood, and called as at other times, Samuel, Samuel. Then Samuel answered, Speak; for thy servant hearth.

Unrepentant Sin will keep you away from God’s Word, that Word is Jesus Christ.

Mental consent of God’s truths is still not enough.

If you cannot hear the voice of Jesus continually leading, guiding, talking to you, you need to find out why.. you do not wait to go to heaven to hear Jesus talking to you. Jesus said, Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Rev. 3:20

Learning the Bible is not like going to a school and having Humans teach us… in fact if you use this approach you really have even missed the boat already..

The Holy Spirit will teach you all things. John 14:26.

He desires to teach you individually, even to teach you personal things about yourself, and tell you as to how he wants you to live, how he wants you to improve as well, what he wants you to deny – as well as encourage you, to tell you of his love for you, and open up the scriptures fully to you, including the mysteries. If you limit yourself to merely reading writings, reading the Bible, you next will only get crumbs beneath the table. I too also learned that I personally can Hear the Voice of God in more ways than one..

Jesus now in reality is not a thought or an ideology, He is a Person. People have relationships, and relationships presupposes mutual communication. The Holy Spirit can and will speak to us directly if we let him to speak to us or let others next to speak to us, to guide us but he does want us to mature, to seek Him, to seek His face for our guidance.

As we read the Old Testament we also see the “various ways” by which God spoke.  God spoke directly to Noah, Gen. 6:13-21. Moses saw a burning bush, and heard an audible voice, Exodus 3:1-4. Jacob dreamt a dream of a ladder and angels, and heard God speak to him in a dream, Genesis 28:10-15. Joseph dreamt dreams that made his brothers burn with jealousy, Gen. 37:5-11. The Lord spoke directly to both Moses and Aaron, Exodus 12:1, and when Moses spoke with God, his face shone, Ex. 34:29-30. Elijah heard God speak in a “still, small voice,” 1 Kings 19:12. Samuel audibly heard the Lord’s voice when he was still a young child, 1 Samuel 3:1-10. Ezekiel had visions in which God’s Spirit lifted him up and showed him different cities, Ezek. 8:4;

11:24. Daniel was told Nebuchadnezzar’s dream and its interpretation in a “night vision“, Dan. 2:19. Another time, an angel of the Lord appeared to Daniel and spoke with him, Dan. 9:21. These are just a few. Realize that God can and has spoken in a variety of ways in Old Testament times.

How does God speak to us today?  First, Jesus promised us the Holy Spirit:

John 14:16-18 (Jesus speaking) “And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever–the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.”

John 15:26“But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me.”

John 16:13-15  ”However, when He, the Spirit of truth has come, He will guide you into all truth, for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.”

This promise that we will hear the Holy Spirit was so immediate and so strong, that Jesus promised that even in times of extreme trial we would be able to hear Him speak to us through the Holy Spirit:

Mark 13:11 (Jesus speaking) ”But when they arrest you and deliver you up, do not worry beforehand, or premeditate what you will speak. But whatever is given you in that hour, speak that, for it is not you who speak, but the Holy Spirit.”

The ability to hear God’s voice belongs to all of God’s children, Christians:

John 10:27 (Jesus speaking) “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.”

Jesus’ sheep hear His voice, not just upon initial salvation, but from day to day as they follow Him. Notice, Jesus didn’t say, “My extra-special, extra-long, extra-woolly merino sheep hear My voice, “ or, “Only My male sheep with staggeringly big horns hear My voice.” Jesus just said, “My sheep.” If you are God’s sheep, you should be able to hear His voice.
Mind you some people also do now  lie when they claim  they are hearing God’s voice..

(Deu 18:20 KJV) But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.



(Jer 14:14 KJV) Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.



(Jer 23:25 KJV) I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed.



(Jer 27:15 KJV) For I have not sent them, saith the LORD, yet they prophesy a lie in my name; that I might drive you out, and that ye might perish, ye, and the prophets that prophesy unto you.



(Jer 29:9 KJV) For they prophesy falsely unto you in my name: I have not sent them, saith the LORD.



(Jer 29:23 KJV) Because they have committed villany in Israel, and have committed adultery with their neighbours’ wives, and have spoken lying words in my name, which I have not commanded them; even I know, and am a witness, saith the LORD.



God does not lead or teach most professing Christians cause they are not yet Holy Spirit Baptized even The “baptism of the Holy Spirit” involves being covered with, immersed in, empowered by the Holy Spirit. Baptism of the Holy Spirit is a term used to describe a movement of the Spirit upon and/or within a believer usually at salvation but often after the person is saved. Actually it is likely  that many people accept Jesus Christ intellectual but do take some time to make him fully the personal lord of their life next.

(Acts 10:38 KJV) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

“I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed (enduo) with power (dunamis) from on high.” (Luke 24:49)

“Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about. For John baptized with water (hudati), but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit (en pneumati hagio)…. But you will receive power (dunamis) when the Holy Spirit comes on (epiechomai) you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.” (Acts 1:4, 5, 8; see 11:15-16)

The “baptism of the Holy Spirit” is given to those persons who obey God, follow after and do his will.. it requires our initial personal involvement, willingness, obedience

Matt. 3:11, “As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.”

Mark 1:8, “I baptized you with water; but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.”

Acts 11:16, “And I remembered the word of the Lord, how He used to say, ‘John baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.”

The Early Church understood water baptism much as John the Baptist did, representing God’s cleansing and the washing away of our sins (Acts 22:16). It is a baptism of repentance still, since by submitting to Christian baptism, a person either tacitly or explicitly acknowledges his need for cleansing, and therefore his sins that demand forgiveness and cleansing. On the Day of Pentecost, Peter told his convicted hearers, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit”

We should be careful to not confuse Baptism in the Holy Spirit with the various other ministries of the Holy Spirit. The filling of the Holy Spirit is how He empowers and controls us (Acts 4:31; Ephesians 5:18). The indwelling of the Holy Spirit is God the Holy Spirit taking up permanent residence in our lives (John 14:17; Romans 8:9-11; 1 Corinthians 3:16; 6:19; 1 John 4:4). The sealing of the Holy Spirit is God marking us as His permanent possession (Ephesians 1:13-14). Baptism in the Holy Spirit is related to these other ministries of the Holy Spirit, but at the same time, it is separate from them.

” The question is, how to discern what is truly of God, and what is not? Here are some guidelines:

1. First and foremost, any word or guidance must be consistent with God’s Word.

–For example, I had a pastor once who as a young man believed that he had a word from God that he should divorce his wife. Clearly, this was not God, and thankfully, he didn’t do it!
–Similarly, a “word” that says that Jesus is coming on a specific date is also not from God, because the Word says that we will know neither the time nor the season when Christ returns, Matt. 24:42, 44, 1 Thess. 5:1-2.

2. Any word or guidance should also be consistent with God’s character. For example:

–A prophetic word that condemns a person is not from God. God never condemns His people, Romans 8:1.
–A prophecy that is full of confusion or causes confusion is not from God, James 3:16. Our God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, 1 Cor. 14:33.
–Similarly, suspect a prophecy as bogus if the “word” is changed. Again, God is not the author of confusion, and He won‘t give a word and then change it.
–A prophecy that makes people fearful is not from God. Our God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind, 2 Timothy 1:7.
(Do you remember the “Y2K” dire prophecies? They were filled with fear.)

3. ALL prophetic words or guidance, AND those who give them should meet the standards of James 3:17-18:

James 3:17-18 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

–For example, if a “word” causes covetousness, it is not from God. It is not pure.
–Similarly, if a so-called “prophet” is living a sinful lifestyle, reject any word from him or her. They are not pure.
–Here is another example, that actually happened at my church: a woman came in who was not part of the church, nor submissive to any pastor, and gave a “word” that if we didn’t buy the land that was near us, the children in our nursery would not grow up to serve God. She then became angry when she was asked to sit down. Consider the indications that this word was not from God: this woman was not in submission to anyone, she was not willing to yield, there was no mercy and no peace, and her word was filled with fear, ‘If you don’t do this, your children won’t serve God!’

4. God’s word comes with peace, always, James 3:17-18, above. Satan can do miracles, quote Scripture and appear as an angel of light, but I have never known him to be able to imitate God’s peace. If you are being directed by the Holy Spirit, there will be a sense of peace in your spirit, always. Satan pushes with fear. God leads with peace.

5. Ask what the fruit of that word is. Jesus said that we would know false prophets by their fruit, Matt. 7:15-20. The same test can be applied to prophecy. What is the fruit? Fear? Confusion? Despair? Peace? Encouragement?

6. A word that is truly from God will draw you to Him, not drive you away. This same test can be applied to any sermon or teaching. For example, if you are given a word that generally says that you are no good and you might as well give up now, that is not God.

7. If you are a child of God, then any prophetic word should speak to your spirit as well. The same Holy Spirit who can give a word through another person lives in you, Romans 8:9. Therefore, your own spirit should testify whether or not a word is a good word.

8. Test the spirits! Any spirit speaking to you should be able to say that Jesus is Lord, and that He has come in the flesh, 1 John 4:1-3, 1 Cor. 12:3.

For example, suppose you believe that the Holy Spirit is telling you to do something. Say something like, “In Jesus name, I command you to tell me if Jesus is Lord, and if He has come in the flesh.” If the Holy Spirit is speaking to you, He will affirm both statements. He will also be pleased that you are testing the spirits, as 1 John 4:1 commands. If, on the other hand, a demon is speaking to you, that demon will deny both statements–or disappear. There will be no affirming statement.

I have heard of this test being used on people as they were giving demonic words. Because they were under demonic influence, they were not able to say these two statements, that Jesus is Lord, and that He has come in the flesh. Unfortunately, I’ve never had the boldness to try this test myself while another person was speaking, even though I knew that the word they gave was not from God. Too bad! Many people were misled by these so called “prophets.”

9. A final test: Did that word come to pass? If the word given doesn’t come to pass, then suspect that this word was not from God. Remember, though, that even the most positive prophecy is contingent on obedience for fulfillment. The word given may have been a good word. For example, Israel was told they would go to the promised land. Was this word fulfilled? It was fulfilled only for two of the original people, Joshua and Caleb, because of Israel’s disobedience and unbelief, Heb. 3:18-19.

In summary, it is possible to hear God’s voice. God’s word tells us not to despise prophecies, 1 Thess. 5:20, but at the same time, the next verse tells us to “test all things.” We should not be gullible. God can speak to us today, but every word should be tested, always.”

Now see also
http://sacredtruths.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/god-can-speak-directly-to-you

http://pbulow.tripod.com/voice.html

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/tag/god-speaks-hearing-gods-voice/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/

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About thenonconformer
I am a Canadian, retired and I do have an Engineering degree, from Concordia University , Montreal 1968, plus I had also now worked as a Re/Max Realtor in Calgary too.

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