My heart’s desire and prayer to God also is for Israel to be saved

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(Rom 1:20 KJV) For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
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Psalms 80: 1 Give ear, O Shepherd of Israel, thou that leadest Joseph like a flock; thou that dwellest between the cherubims, shine forth.
2 Before Ephraim and Benjamin and Manasseh stir up thy strength, and come and save us.
3 Turn us again, O God, and cause thy face to shine; and we shall be saved.
4 O LORD God of hosts, how long wilt thou be angry against the prayer of thy people?
5 Thou feedest them with the bread of tears; and givest them tears to drink in great measure.
6 Thou makest us a strife unto our neighbours: and our enemies laugh among themselves.
7 Turn us again, O God of hosts, and cause thy face to shine; and we shall be saved.
8 Thou hast brought a vine out of Egypt: thou hast cast out the heathen, and planted it.
9 Thou preparedst room before it, and didst cause it to take deep root, and it filled the land.
10 The hills were covered with the shadow of it, and the boughs thereof were like the goodly cedars.
11 She sent out her boughs unto the sea, and her branches unto the river.
12 Why hast thou then broken down her hedges, so that all they which pass by the way do pluck her?
13 The boar out of the wood doth waste it, and the wild beast of the field doth devour it.
14 Return, we beseech thee, O God of hosts: look down from heaven, and behold, and visit this vine;
15 And the vineyard which thy right hand hath planted, and the branch that thou madest strong for thyself.
16 It is burned with fire, it is cut down: they perish at the rebuke of thy countenance.
17 Let thy hand be upon the man of thy right hand, upon the son of man whom thou madest strong for thyself.
18 So will not we go back from thee: quicken us, and we will call upon thy name.
19 Turn us again, O LORD God of hosts, cause thy face to shine; and we shall be saved.
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NOW YOU CANNOT CONTINUE IN DELIBERATE SIN, REJECTING JESUS CHRIST’S AND THE NEW TESTAMENT TEACHING EVEN AND STILL CLAIM YOU ARE EVEN ANY KIND OF A CHRISTIAN.. YOU ARE NOT ANY KIND OF REAL CHRISTIAN IF YOU REJECT ANY PART OF THE NEW TESTAMENT. The People with an empty, imposturous Christian spiritual life generally still turn to a simplified Old Testament version gospel, practice and not a real New Testament based Gospel, religion or they even turn to idolatry to wrongfully try to compensate for their definite void, guilt feelings, their failure to reach, acquire a deeper Holy Sprit led, filled, spiritual life in Christ…. They practice …idolatry instead and now falsely promote, do encourage the worship of men, creeds, history, doctrines, things, places, books, videos, rather than solely worshipping God, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus. The devil leads them into this. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus-2/
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(Jer 8:7 KJV) Yea, the stork in the heaven knoweth her appointed times; and the turtle and the crane and the swallow observe the time of their coming; but my people know not the judgment of the LORD.

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(Rom 8:5 KJV) For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
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(Rom 8:14 KJV) For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
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(Rom 9:7 KJV) Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
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The clearly stated Biblical need of all persons, even Jews to be personally saved by Jesus Christ is undeniable.
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“Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” —Acts 4:12
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John 3:3… “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Carefully notice that Jesus spoke this to Nicodemus, a Jew, who was a religious leader over the JEWS. Every lost sinner must be born-again if they want to go to Heaven? 2nd Thessalonians 1:8 applies to everyone.
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Romans 10:1-4, “Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.”
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Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
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Let me ask you a really important Question.. The Jews admit their father was Abraham but did Abraham himself now reject the Messiah? No, Abraham believed upon the Messiah and was saved… “And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness” (Genesis 15:6). We read in Isaiah 43:11, “I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.” We also do read in Luke 2:11, “For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.” And I love Romans 4:5, “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him (Jesus) that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” Romans 10:13 promises, “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord (Jesus) shall be saved.” ” Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” Clearly Abraham and even David in their Spirits had accepted the Messiah Jesus Christ.. King David said of the same Lord Jesus Christ that he was his Lord too.
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Acts 2: 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God,I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: 19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: 20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: 21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. 22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: 23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: 24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. 25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved: 26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope: 27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. 28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance. 29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. 34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool. 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
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Even a casual reader of the Bible can notice something “different” about Psalm 22 and Isaiah 52:13 to 53:12 in relation to the forthcoming Messiah Jesus Christ . They tell of events that perfectly parallel events in the life of Chris, events that next even took place much later. David (the author of Psalm 22) lived about 1043-973 BC in Psalm 22 itself now had predicted 11 separate things about Jesus’ crucifixion about a thousand years before they happened. While Isaiah lived about 740-680 BC. Both passages, written far ahead of the time of Christ, are even undeniable strong proof that that the Bible was literally inspired by God and that God had an ongoing plan of all Mankind;s Salvation through Himself, the Messiah Jesus Christ
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Christianity is the truth based upon the belief that Jesus of Nazareth was the expected Messiah, or Christ, and that in him all the hopes and prophecies of Israel concerning the future have been fulfilled.  Christianity as a whole rests upon the belief in the God of Israel and in the Hebrew Scriptures as the word of God; but it claims that these Scriptures, which it calls the Old Testament, receive their true meaning and interpretation from the New Testament, taken to be the written testimonies of the Apostles that Jesus appeared as the end and fulfillment of all Hebrew prophecy. Furthermore   Jesus, its Christ, was and is a son of God in a higher and an essentially different sense than any other human being, sharing in His divine nature, a cosmic principle destined to counteract the principle of evil embodied in Satan; that, therefore, the death of the crucified Christ was designed by God to be the means of atonement for the sin inherited by the human race through the fall of Adam, the first man; and, consequently, that without belief in Jesus, in whom the Old Testament sacrifice is typified, there is no salvation.  Christianity, as a world-power, claims that it represents the highest form of civilization,  uniting Hebrew and Greek to become the heir to both; and  all other creeds and systems of thought must recede and pale before it.  Christianity,   directly or implicitly  deny to Judaism, its mother religion,  and Christianity never had regarded itself as part of Judaism. but is anew way of life, religion. And all Messianic Jews are nonchristians, Messianic Jews do also tend show false antagonism towards Christians and the Church.  For any Jews to try to define these truths as   Antisemitism is absurd and a big lie, immoral.

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No True Christian Church
•  Rightfully would celebrate  and accept Jewish continual identity as part of God’s creation.  But would agree that there is no such thing as a Jewish or gentile Christian as well as Only Christians exists now and in Heaven.
• Would deny  that Jesus was a Jew. He was born a Jew, lived a Jew, was Murdered by Jews as  a Jew, but next rose from the dead as an on  Jew and will return to rule the world as a  non Jew. They would admit that Jesus real father was not a Jew. and that Adam and Abraham were not even  Jews now too and made it to Heaven without Judaism
• Would lie and say that the New Testament is a Jewish book.  Or would deny t that the New Testament is  the cause of the ongoing Jewish persecutions.
• Would deny  that the disciples of Jesus, apostles were ex Jews, Paul was a Jew, and all the first followers of Jesus were both ex Jews and ex gentiles
• Would deny that  Jews are  the Christ-killers,even today
•Would deny the Holocaust was   God’s judgment on the Jews, who reaped what they had sowed
• Would  not pray for the spiritual conversion of the Jewish people to become Christians, Real Jews,
• Would agree with  present right of the Jewish people to live   in the false State of Israel.
• Affirm the Zionist dream for an independent Jewish state in their valid both historical and Biblical
•  Would  deny that the Old  New Testament  is Israel’s history  with  application for today’s  Christian.
• Would  accept any  all expressions of  Jewish racial superiority in the name of Christian theology.
Yes the  Church, the Christians  have rightful made it almost impossible for the Jews be Jewish and Christians at the same time as per the original faith delivered to the Saints
https://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2015/05/28/my-hearts-desire-and-prayer-to-god-also-is-for-israel-to-be-saved/

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Yes   the Church, the Christians have rightfully  made it almost impossible for the Jews be Jewish and Christians at the same time as per the original faith delivered to the Saints  https://postedat.wordpress.com/2013/11/04/the-problem-even-with-the-messianic-jews-is/

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Next in what way “Was Jesus a Jew? Was Jesus a real Jew now even? No! why? Let us here even examine his birth according to the Bible.
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Matthew 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily. 20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. 21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. 22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, 23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. 24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: 25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
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Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea, so He was a Judean by birth location (NOT a “Jew” by genetics, there is no such thing as a genetic Jew even) ) and He Jesus was from the tribe of Judah, but he lived his life in Nazareth, in “Galilee of the Nations (Gentiles)” so He was a Nazarene. Isa 9:1 Jesus was a child of the Holy Spirit (God’s Spirit – or breath of God) (Luke 1:34,35). He had no lineage from His stepfather, Joseph. Yes, His earthly parents, both His earthly mother and His earthly father, were from the line of David. David was an Israelite, He lived in Israel in the area of Judah, but did that make him “Jewish” genetically. There is an additional compelling reason why Jesus had NO earthly genes from either of His earthly parents, including NO genes from His earthly mother, Mary. He could NOT have had ANY of Mary’s human genes, because if He had, it would have been a case of the creature (a human being – Mary) CREATING the CREATOR (God in the human form of Jesus), it would be a case of humanity CREATING God! That could NOT be! Jesus had NO genes from a human parent. He was “born of the Holy Spirit.” Matt 1:18 Jesus was placed in Mary’s womb to grow in her body, to symbolize Jesus coming from “outside” of us, from “outside” of this world to come into us and become One with us. To put His disposition, His character into us. Jesus came into this world to become One with humanity, to live in us.
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How did the Jews Lived in Jesus’ Time? Did Jesus himself fully live a Jewish Priests’ life now too? Well the answer is basically unknown and why?
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There are almost no written records left of what the actual Jewish life was like in the time of Jesus Christ or before or even What Christ’s own life was because the Romans destroyed most of the Jewish Libraries, now less than a handful of written books on the subject exist. The Jews want to claim they have a pure heritage, religion these days too. But don’t you realize that since the time of Christ and even before that the Jewish heritage, Judaism itself thus has been, is all corrupted? Judaism now rather is the “religion of Anti-Christ! “ The heritage which Aish HaTorah teaches is reprobate paganism! a deviation even from the Faith once held by the true Jews, Abraham and King David even.
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Much of what we know even about the Holy Land around the time of Jesus is based solely or only on the accounts by Flavius Josephus (A.D. 37-100), the pro-Roman Jewish governor of Galilee, in his books The Jewish War and Jewish Antiquities . Josephus was born to an upper-class Jewish family. He became the governor of Galilee at the age of 31 in A.D. 68 and later led a Jewish liberation army against Rome. When he was Rome, he was spared when he told the Roman general Vespasian that he was a Jewish messiah and a future emperor of Rome. When Vespasian did in fact become emperor, Josephesus was given a generous pension and comfortable apartment. He spent the rest of his life writing books that attempted to explain whey the Jews revolted… still often do today as well.. and we are not obligated in any way to befriend Israel today. The Jews, as a nation, rejected their Savior 2000 years ago, and still rejects Jesus today.
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The Christian Messianic Jews sect, cult also now tend to clearly lie as to what the full Life of Jesus really was. No one Knows, it was mot recorded. The Bible alone from the Old Covenant to the New, from Genesis to Revelation, God provides picture after picture of His entire plan for mankind’s salvation though Jesus Christ .
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The Jews now also still are not the center of the Bible as Jesus Christ is . The whole Bible is about the coming of Jesus Christ on earth as well as his supreme rulership now too
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Again WHERE did Judaism really come from and WHEN did it begin in History? The true Biblical Christianity of the Israelites was slowly subverted by an underground working even by the ancestors of the Pharisees. This covert corruption began with the worship of the golden calf in the wilderness, then continued with the worship of the pagan god Baal, and then grew to include child sacrifice through the fire to the pagan god Molech. The growth of this undercurrent of evil among the Israelites can be documented throughout the entire Old Testament. Moses chastised the Israelites when they turned their back on God. Joshua also warned them. During Samuel’s time, the Israelites demanded a king to rule them “as the other nations” had rather than allowing God to be their King. The prophets Isaiah and Jeremiah were later sent to warn the Israelites of their apostasy.
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God showed Ezekiel the abominations secretly going on in Israel. (Ezekiel 8:5-17) Then said He (God) unto me (Ezekiel), Son of man, lift up your eyes, and look toward the north. So I lifted up my eyes toward the north, and behold northward at the gate of the altar is the image of jealousy in the entrance. He said furthermore unto me, Son of man, do you see what they do? Even the great abominations that the house of Israel commits here, that I should go far off from My sanctuary? But turn again, and you shall see greater abominations.And He brought me to the door of the court (of the temple): and when I looked, behold a hole in the wall.Then He said unto me, Son of man, dig now in the wall: and when I had digged I the wall, behold a door. And He said unto me, Go in and behold the wicked abominations that they do here. So I went in and saw: and behold every form of creeping things (insects) and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, carved on the walls round about.And there stood before them seventy men of the elders of the house of Israel, and in the midst of them stood Jaazaniah the son of Shaphan, with every man his censer in his hand; and a thick cloud of incense went up. (The leaders of Israel were secretly worshipping beasts and creeping things as did the pagan Egyptians.)Then said He unto me, Son of man, have you seen what the elders of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the room of his idols? For they say, The Lord does not see us; the Lord has forsaken the land.He said also unto me, Turn yet again, and you shall see greater abominations that they do.Then He brought me to the door of the gate of the Lord’s house which was toward the north; and behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz (A Sumerian fertility god)Then said He unto me, Have you seen this, O son of man? Turn yet again and you shall see greater abominations than these.And He brought me into the inner court of the Lord’s house, and behold, at the door of the temple of the Lord, between the porch and the altar, were about twenty-five men, with their backs toward the temple of the Lord, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.Then He said unto me, Have you seen this, O son of man? Is it a trivial thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? For they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke Me to anger . . .
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Here Ezekiel documents this evil undercurrent that was corrupting the true Christianity of the Israelites. The leaders of the Temple were worshiping idols, beasts and creeping things, the Sumerian fertility god, Tammuz, and they were worshiping the pagan sun god in secret!
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When God raised up prophets to rebuke Israel for their waywardness, the prophets were ignored, imprisoned or stoned to death. Eventually, the Israelites were taken captive by Babylon because of their apostasy.
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Finally, Jesus, the Messiah, came but this wicked false undercurrent had taken hold in such a strong way that the Pharisees and the Sadducees had become so arrogant and self-righteous that they accused Jesus of being a demon-controlled imposter. Jesus rebuked the leaders for bringing false doctrines into the beliefs of the Christian Israelites by promoting traditions that “made the commandments of God of none effect.”
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“Thus you have made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. Matthew 15:6
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And He (Jesus) said unto them (the Pharisees), Full well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your own tradition. Mark 7:9
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When Jesus was on earth, He attacked the Pharisees as:
hypocrites,
blind guides,
children of hell,
fools,
without mercy or faith,
full of extortion and self indulgence,
full of uncleanness,
serpents,
brood of vipers,
murderers, crucifiers and scourgers of prophets and wise men, AND
accused them of being responsible for “ALL the righteous blood shed upon the earth since Abel.” (Matthew, Chapter 24)
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It was then that the Pharisees, Sadducees and scribes – the leaders of the Organized Church of the day – decided to murder Christ by crucifixion.
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Once they had rejected and killed the Messiah, Jesus Christ, they fell into even deeper darkness. In A.D. 70, Jerusalem and the temple in it were destroyed. Many of the Pharisees ended up in Babylon where these abominable oral “traditions of the elders” were committed to writing and became known as the Babylonian Talmud, the “holiest” book of Judaism. This evil undercurrent that had been smoldering for hundreds of years had now taken over completely, and a new occult religion was born – the religion of Judaism.”
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(Rom 9:32 KJV) Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone;
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(Rom 16:18 KJV) For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
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Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening (Mat 10:17 KJV)
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But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; Acts 20:29
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For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Acts 20:30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. Acts 20:31 Therefore… watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. Acts 20:32 And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.
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Reality also now is that Apostle Paul was once a Jew but he rightfully gave up his Jewish religion, and followed solely after Jesus Christ so did all of the Apostles, and that was why the Jews hated them, and still do.. There is no Jews or gentiles now in Heaven only born again Christians, all those persons anointed with the holy spirit. http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2012/02/22/the-futility-of-becoming-a-jew-messianic-jew-included/
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YES TRUE APOSTLES LEFT THEIR HEBREWS ROOTS AND THEY ALSO OPERATE IN ALL THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT BUT FALSE ONES LIKE YAHWAH APOSTOLIC MINISTRIESWHO TOO OFTEN HIDE THEIR IDENTITIES BECAUSE THEY ARE SONS OF WHO HATE JESUS CHRIST ARE THUS NOT TRUE BORN AGAIN SONS OF GOD
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TRUE PREACHING FOLLOWS THAT SET FORTH IN THE PATTERN OF THE NEW TESTAMENT AND WE WE ARE TO PREACH UNDER THE NEW COVENANT WITH THE ANOINTING OF THE BAPTISM OF THE SPIRIT:
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ACTS Acts 6: 5 And the saying pleased the whole multitude. And they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and the Holy Spirit, and Philip, Prochorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas, and Nicolas, a proselyte from Antioc…
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“If any man or woman, boy or girl, of any race or religious or unreligious beliefs will dust off your old Bible, using the King James version that I have studied for many years, and show me from its ( new Tesament ) pages, chapter and verse, where it states that the Jews firstly now are God’s chosen people, ” but none can ever prove that the Jews today are God’s chosen people for they truly are no longer that the Christians have become the chosen people of God now only. It is also true that the U. S.A. and Britain and other Nordic nations now also are not the chosen people of God..
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(Mat 1:21 KJV) And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
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(Mat 1:23 KJV) Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
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(2 Cor 5:17 KJV) Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
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Isa 58:13 ¶ If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, [from] doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking [thine own] words: Isa 58:14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, a…nd feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken [it].
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It may feel more spiritual to keep the Jewish Saturday Sabbath requirements, but realy it only shows you do not read the whole Bible, that you are realy still ignorant of it, even of God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit too who is not leading you still.. if you observe the Sabbath laws then you have to observe also now all the over 550 other Jewish Bible commandments perfectly as well but even then you still will go to Hell cause you are no longer saved by God’s grace, or by the finished work of Jesus Christ but are falsely trying to be saved now your own false works, like Cain tried.. Jesus had come and he had abolished the Jewish and Sabbath requirements. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/06/01/christians-pretenders-who-hold-to-the-saturday-sabbath/
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(Mat 12:1 KJV) At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day. 3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him; 4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the showbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests? 5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless? 6 But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple. 7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless. 8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
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And do pray for the Christians also in Nigeria as well.. As the attacks on Nigeria’s Christians continued in full force where a particularly grisly attack saw fifty believers burned to death at their pastor’s home, where they had fled for refuge from a terrorist attack. Reports disclosed that over 100 people were killed by armed terrorists in just one week, who went on a 12-village killing spree in Nigeria’s Plateau state. Islamic extremist group Boko Haram has once again taken responsibility for this. None of this is acceptable.
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I support all Christians but I support Israel only it is very unChrist like.. as God does not show false partiality to the Jews as they are no longer his chosen people… those who support Israel are JUDIAZERS, According to the Concise Oxford Dictionary of World Religions (1977) this term includes groups such as Jewish Christians, Quartodecimans, Ethiopian Christians, descendants of English Puritanism such as the Seventh-day Adventist Church and others, who claim the necessity of obedience to the Mosaic Laws which are found in the first five books of the Christian Old Testament.[3] Though this is something likely disputed by members belonging to these groups, notably the Seventh-day Adventist Church, as term Judaizers is typically used as a pejorative. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaizing

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Now still even from the first centuary, there are many, many false persons, Judiazers, pushing falsely Judaism and it’s value on Christians, even the cults and not just the Jewish persons now too.. and do note this that none of them are from God..

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Judiazers, a deliberate demonic activity, Judiazers have falsely existed from the first century, and are still one of the biggest oppponents to Jesus Christ in the Church today.. ”It was a tragic hour when the reformation churches wrote the Ten Commandments into their creeds and catechisms and sought to bring Gentile believers into bondage to Jewish law, which was never intended either for the Gentile nations or for the church. “Within the early church even there was an ongoing conflict between two groups who both claimed to be followers of Jesus Christ. One group held to the teachings of Jesus as taught by the apostles regarding salvation in Christ alone. The other group also held to the teachings of Jesus but added certain Jewish religious practices, particularly circumcision. As the New American Commentary explains, “…Paul waged a steady campaign against a group of false teachers, commonly known as Judiazers, who had sown great confusion among the apostle’s recent converts by teaching that becoming Jewish was necessary for salvation.”

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(Rom 10:1 KJV) Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

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(Jer 2:13 KJV) For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.

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(Jer 2:32 KJV) Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride her attire? yet my people have forgotten me days without number. . (Jer 7:23 KJV) But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you. . (Rom 8:5 KJV) For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

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It is interesting to note the many beliefs held in common by both the original followers of Christ and the zealous Judiazers. Apparently, both of these groups claimed Christ as savior, both held to the authority of Scriptures, both acknowledged the presence of the Holy Spirit, both were “evangelistic,” and at one time or another both groups were accepted as genuine followers of Christ by many first-century Christian congregations. Certainly, both groups claimed to love Jesus and His Gospel. Paul was particularly forceful in his instructions regarding the Judiazers and their gospel+religious works. The apostle charged, “Evidently, some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.” Paul’s solution to this problem was that “even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!” The gospel of the Judiazers “is really no gospel at all.” (Galatians1:6-9) The apostles instructed believers to give no ground when it came to preserving the purity of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. John pointedly stated, “Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God.” (2John 9) The writer of Hebrews warned, “We must pay more careful attention therefore, to what we have heard, so that we do not drift away.” (Hebrews 2:1) “ Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints. For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God…. Jude 1:3- “if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. …such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.” (2 Corinthians 11:4,13)

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And do we now Keep all the commandements of the old testament? but yes that was the old testament.. have you yet rightfully rather made the transition to the New Testament? NO tithing required too.. only Love God, love others, be not drunk with wine, be filled with the Holy Spirit? The modern day Judaizers in the Christian church are even the Messianic Jews and those in the “Torah Keeper” movement. Many Christian churches falsely teach that the Ten Commandments apply today. This doctrine is totally baffling, since Scripture written by the Apostle Paul for the church today is clearly against it. They come up with twisted explanations and fall into false teaching. They falsely believe that legalism is the only method possible for a person to resist a sinful lifestyle. These church Pastors, Ministers, and Reverends ignore the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit in the born-again believer. The Apostle Paul taught that legalism is doomed to failure. Submitting to the guidance of the Holy Spirit actually fulfills the requirements of the Law.

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There are almost no historial documents, writings available world wide or only a handful at the most at the time of Christ.. so who even realy does knows what the Jews or Jesus did, wore, ate, dressed like, besides what is stated in the New Testament.. .. no one .. so forget these false Judiazers, false brethren now too and their false cultural teachings, bondages..

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“I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism but accepts men from every nation who fear him and do what is right.” (Acts 10:34-35). For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not… sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. (Acts 20:29 KJV) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; (1 Tim 4:1 KJV)

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It is a fact that at the time of Jesus Christ here on earth Apostles Judas and most of the Jewish people had expected Jesus Christ the messiah to deliver their nation from the Romans and set up a Davidic Kingdom with a Jew monarch on the t…hrone in Jerusalem.. and they were disappointed this had not happened..Judas and the Jewish people they had failed to see that this was not going to happen..” “For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.” Romans 10:2-3.

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The “true Israel” of God, which in the OT was comprised of all ethnic Jews who were circumcised in heart, finds its NT expression in the Church, now comprised of all believing ethnic Jews and all believing ethnic Gentiles. Or, to use Paul’s imagery from Romans 11, the one Olive Tree = True Israel = the Church in which are both natural (Jewish) branches and unnatural (Gentile) branches, but in all cases “believing branches Jesus taught that his resurrection was the raising of the True Temple of Israel. He has replaced the priesthood, sacrifices, and sanctuary of Israel by fulfilling them in his own glorious priestly ministry and by offering, once and for all, his sacrifice for the world, that is, for both Jew and Gentile. Believers from all nations are now being built up through him into this Third Temple, the church that Jesus promised to build.

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Heaven awaits the Jewish return TO God, Jesus Christ, and rather NOT TO THE PROMISED EARTHLY LAND BUT TO THE NEW HEAVENLY Jerusalem.. In reality the first God promised restoration of the remnant of Israel had been met.. The aspiration of returning to their homeland was first held by Jews exiled to Babylon some 2,500 years ago – a hope which subsequently became the reality. (”By the water of Babylon, there we sat down and wept when we remembered Zion.” Psalms 137:1). And the full promised by God restoration of the remnant of Israel and of the Gentile has been already priory fulfilled, the latter one fulfilled by God in Jesus Christ on Pentecost , in Jerusalem, as witnessed, as stated in the books of Acts before the 70 AD dispersion.. which most of the Jews wrongfully reject even till today and next wanted to have their own Jewish only state.. In Acts 15:14-18, James confirms, interprets the prophecy of Amos 9 that describes the rebuilding of David’s tabernacle as finding its fulfillment in the calling out of Gentiles and the progressive formation of the Christian Church Zionism, on the other hand, “is a secularist, largely atheistic ideology” that emerged in the late 19th century. It is unbelievable, undeniable that the professing Christian people who do not know the Bible can be so easily deceived, led astray too by many others, pastors and Jewish persons, Zionists included.. And had most people most Christians read the Bible for themselves they would have known the whole truth and would not have been so easily misled by others. The 2 Jewish dispersions by the gentiles were both predicted beforehand. One was predicted by the prophet Jeremiah in the Old Testament, and one by Jesus Christ himself in the New Testament.

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It is important to note that in the first prediction about the dispersions of Israel from their promised land there was a God given promise of their return. It is important to note that in the second prediction about the dispersions of Israel from their promised land there was no God given promise of their return. There actually is no Biblical promised prophecy, promised second return of the Jews to Israel in the Old Testament or in the whole Bible now too. after their second dispersion from Israel by the Romans in 70 ad.. . Not even one Bible verse even for the Jewish return in 1948.. Do try prove me wrong..

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Christian Zionists falsely now contrary to the New Testament do support the rebuilding of the nation of Israel, Jerusalem as the center of Worship, and the rebuilding of the Temple and are in error because of their false refusal to acknowledge Jesus Cjrist as Lord and how Jesus and the Apostles reinterpreted the Old Testament, with a false assumption that Old and New Testament run at times parallel into the future, the former speaking of Israel and the latter of the Church.

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(Mat 7:21 KJV) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (Rom 2:9 KJV) Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

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Jesus and the apostles repudiated the notion that the Jews continued to enjoy a special status or relationship apart from faith in Jesus as their Messiah. If God does not show favoritism, the Jews cannot an longer presume to enjoy a favored or exclusive status. By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear. (Hebrews 8:13). The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming– not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship (Hebrews 10:1)

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It is fundamental that all persons, Zionist and Christians, do read the Scriptures solely with Christian eyes, and that they interpret the Old Covenant in the light of the New Covenant, not the other way round. Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. (Colossians. 2:16-17) This is the most basic hermeneutical error which Christian Zionists consistently repeat is illustrated in the way Christian Zionists continue to regard the Jews as God’s ‘chosen people’ and clearly which is no longer true.

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(Jer 2:13 KJV) For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water. (Jer 2:32 KJV) Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride… her attire? yet my people have forgotten me days without number. (Jer 7:23 KJV) But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you. (Rom 9:7 KJV) Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. (Rom 9:32 KJV) Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone; (Rom 16:18 KJV) For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. (Rom 8:5 KJV) For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.As per the next full supposed re-gathering of the twelve tribes of Israel note this had occurred in Pentecost, in the book of Acts where all of the tribes of Israel were represented, present thus. (Acts 2:2 KJV) And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. (Acts 2:36 KJV) Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. (Acts 16:31 KJV) And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. Reality also now is that Apostle Paul was once a Jew but he rightfully gave up his Jewish religion, and followed solely after Jesus Christ so did all of the Apostles, and that was why the Jews hated them, and still do.. There is no Jews or gentiles now in Heaven only born again Christians, all those persons anointed with the holy spirit.

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From childhood I have been raised in the evangelical Church, even over a half a century later, I have yet to see the supposedly Biblical future, prophetic scripture expositors to agree on most things.. they rather seem to disagree on so many issues rather.. even the supposed basics such as who is the anti Christ? is he an European, Jew, Muslim ? when will he come, will Russia realy attack Israel along with China.. empty, vain discussions mostly and we already know how many now of these quacks have falsely set the date of the end of the world now too.. But is the revived Roman empire the Catholic church or the European Common Market? The subject is a vast landmine anyway.. not important.. yes they even falsely seem all to reject the Baptism of the Holy Spirit preferring to listen to other men and the devil over hearing hearing God’s leading, instructions.. also you can tell what they are they cause they do like to quote more of the old testament, and more of what mere men say too..

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The new Israel, the Christian Church, composed of personally saved by Jesus Christ Jews and gentiles replaces the old Israel in Heaven and on earth.. for the reality is that the new Israel is only the Church, the body of Christ which looks forward to the new Jersualem too

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Now also being a Christian the last 50 years I have undeniably that I found that the Judiazers are amongst the biggest distorters of true Christianity…

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Very little can be known about the reality of the culture, surroundings at the time of Jesus Christ here on earth because there are almost no written records, writings at that period available today, less than a hand full.. Now also “Who real cares what the Hebrew or Torah now says/”.. I prefer the Greek Christos, Jesus the Christ, the one anointed with the Holy Spirit and who can baptize you with the Holy Spirit. There are too many professing Christians persons now also lying to the Jews, trying to get their favor, by claiming they accept the inapplicable to the Christian the old Jewish traditions, cultures, even many Evangelical persons thus who are trying to convert the Jews to Christianity, etc., rather. God will not bless this approach because it is based on lies.. All Jewish religious practices still are contrary to teaching of the New Testament, contrary to Christianity, which clearly sates that God does not accept the Jewish religion as a valid religion anymore. All Jews have to give up Judaism and to accept solely Jesus Christ as their Lord and personal savior and they become Christians now only, not Christian/jews. The Bible says there are no longer no Jews or Gentiles in Heaven but only Christians, as they are one in Jesus Christ http://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/02/09/knowing-hebrew-or-greek-is-not-essential-for-all-christians/

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if you NOW have accepted Jesus Christ as your Savior and Lord then you must also now die to self, die to all your own goals, desires, will, culture, etc., and NOW ONLY serve God alone, follow soley after God’s will.. and this is not an option too.

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Now the sole and the only, true Israel today is the Church, the bride of Christ.. so the church alone can claim these promises of God IN THE BIBLE, today..

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Some Christians today interpret Romans 11:26 as applying to the end of the seven-year tribulation when Jesus appears in the clouds at His Second Coming. In other words, they don’t apply the verse to all Jews throughout history, but only to “all Jews” who are alive at the end. Supposedly, at the end of the tribulation, all remaining Jews in Israel will look up, see Christ coming in the clouds, realize He is the true Messiah, believe in Him, and thus “All Israel will be saved.”This is a false teaching, Rather the immediate context of Romans 11:26 is vs. 25. When “the fullness of the Gentiles has come in,” then “all Israel will be saved.” Or, to be exact, “And so all Israel will be saved.” In other words, the coming in of the fullness or total number of the Gentiles results in “all Israel” being saved. Paul’s idea seems to be that when all Gentiles (totally, throughout history) have come in, that is, have been grafted into the Vine, they, uniting with all Jews who have become believers, will form the total number of the saved.The Israel of God is composed of both Jews and Gentiles who believe in Jesus Christ (Gal. 3:29). The “all Israel that is saved” does not apply to all Jews throughout history, nor can it apply to a select favored group who become instant believers when Jesus Christ comes crashing down through the sky. By that time, it is too late to believe. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/what-does-the-word-chosen-mean-in-the-bible/

. Christian Zionism as a FALSE man made theology AND in its basic starting points does not discriminate between a very small Remnant of physical Israel who HAD accepted Christ and came entirely out of the Old Covenant shadows, and ALSO the large majority who rejected Christ and still reject him.

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By Christian Zionism ADVOCATES I am not talking only about JEWS, BUT John Hagee and his Christians United For Israel (CUFI), but about the entire FALSE theology of John Darby, C.I. Scofield, Lewis S. Chafer, Hal Lindsey and many other celebrities. http://halfback.posterous.com/some-old-testament-texts-on-the-transformatio
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WE NEED TO FIRSTLY ASK THE JEWS TO REPENT OF ALL THEIR WRONG DOINGS, OF NOW TRYING TO Reconquer THE PROMISED LAND, EVEN STILL NOW, IN THE FLESH., RATHER THEY ARE STILL RETURN TO JESUS CAUSE THEY THE JEWS ARE ALL STILL ALL GOING TO HELL EVEN IF THEY NOW ARE LIVING IN THE LAND OF ISRAEL FOR WITHOUT JESUS TODAY AS THEIR LORD AND SAVIOR EVERYONE, THE JEWS INCLUDED THEY GOES TO HELL.. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/even-heaven-awaits-jewish-return-to-god-jesus-christ-and-rather-not-to-the-promised-earthly-land/

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ALSO NOW YOU CANNOT CONTINUE IN DELIBERATE SIN, REJECTING JESUS CHRIST’S AND THE NEW TESTAMENT TEACHING EVEN AND STILL CLAIM YOU ARE EVEN ANY KIND OF A CHRISTIAN.. YOU ARE NOT ANY KIND OF REAL CHRISTIAN IF YOU REJECT ANY PART OF THE NEW TESTAMENT. The People with an empty, imposturous Christian spiritual life generally still turn to a simplified Old Testament version gospel, practice and not a real New Testament based Gospel, religion or they even turn to idolatry to wrongfully try to compensate for their definite void, guilt feelings, their failure to reach, acquire a deeper Holy Sprit led, filled, spiritual life in Christ…. They practice …idolatry instead and now falsely promote, do encourage the worship of men, creeds, history, doctrines, things, places, books, videos, rather than solely worshipping God, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus. The devil leads them into this. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus-2/

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Reality also now is that Apostle Paul was once a Jew but he rightfully gave up his Jewish religion, and followed solely after Jesus Christ so did all of the Apostles, and that was why the Jews hated them, and still do.. There is no Jews or gentiles now in Heaven only born again Christians, all those persons anointed with the holy spirit. http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2012/02/22/the-futility-of-becoming-a-jew-messianic-jew-included/

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YES TRUE APOSTLES LEFT THEIR HEBREWS ROOTS AND THEY ALSO OPERATE IN ALL THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT BUT FALSE ONES LIKE YAHWAH APOSTOLIC MINISTRIES HIDE THEIR IDENTITIES BECAUSE THEY ARE SONS OF WHO HATE JESUS CHRIST ARE THUS NOT TRUE BORN AGAIN SONS OF GOD

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GOD HAD DESTROYED THE JERUSALEM TEMPLE AS JESUS HAD STATED AND IT WOULD NEVER BE REBUILT BECAUSE HE JESUS CHRIST NOW WAS THE TEMPLE http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/jewishtemple.htm

. Do see also

https://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/07/now-how-did-moses-abraham-the-great-jewish-patriarchs-next-make-it-to-heaven/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/24/jews-and-their-own-need-of-salvation-by-jesus-christ-still-too/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/ http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2011/11/16/who-is-jesus-christ-is-he-a-jew-gentile-or-neither-now/ http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/what-does-the-word-chosen-mean-in-the-bible/ http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/jews-arabs-none-of-them-politically-correct/ http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/now-why-was-jesus-even-so-angry-with-the-pharisees/ https://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/about-those-jews-persons-who-still-falsely-refuse-to-acknowledge-openly-jesus-christ-as-their-lord-and-savior/ http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/anti-jewish/ http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/jewishtemple.htm http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/what-the-canadian-conservatives-do-not-say-about-israel/ http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/10/falsely-torah-observant-jewish-and-gentile-messianic-judaism/

http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2012/07/01/the-rtrue-israel-of-god-today/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/06/01/at-least-i-can-tell-the-whole-real-truth/ https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2012/02/05/you-can-have-no-idols-before-god-ever/

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2012/02/23/the-fall-of-jerusalem/ http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/the-jews-were-once-gods-chosen-people/

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2012/03/25/about-the-the-new-covenant/ http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2012/02/19/the-new-covenant-the-new-testament-and-israel/ http://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/05/27/my-hearts-desire-and-prayer-to-god-also-is-for-israel-to-be-saved/ http://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/02/09/knowing-hebrew-or-greek-is-not-essential-for-all-christians/

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Jews, Israel, Arabs and Jesus Christ, the Bible

It is a fact that if you base even your Christian theology on the Old Testament alone you will be in serious error. Major error.    http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/03/18/left-out-of-the-kingdom-of-god-jews-included/

The Romans kicked out almost all of the Jews from Israel in the first century.. the Jewish language, Hebrew was no longer spoken there next. Most governments today outside Israel claim Israel’s land expansion after 1948  has been illegal. During the seventh century prior to 1948 Arab armies conquered most of the Middle East, including the land now variously called Israel, Palestine and the Holy Land (some 10,000 square miles). This area, including Jerusalem, became part of the Ottoman Empire and was largely under Muslim control until the early 1900’s. Over this period most of the population gradually accepted Islam and so by the mid 19th century  Israel was occupied by some 400,000 Muslims, 75,000 Christians and 25,000 Jews and  the early 20th century the land was a mix of many peoples representing some 50 languages? In the 2nd century AD, the Romans renamed Judea as ‘Palaestina’ in an attempt to minimize Jewish identification with the land of Israel. The Roman Emperor Hadrian began using the term ‘Palestine’ for the whole Land of Israel, and this term has prevailed over the centuries. The final term ‘Palestine’ came to prominence after the Balfour Declaration in 1917, when shortly after this the British were given a ‘Palestine Mandate’. The 1922 Mandate  recognised the existence of a ‘Palestinian people’ , a local Arab population of non-Jewish communities. Naturally the Jews differ on all of this. Soley only old Testament Bible verses are used to try to justify the Jewish claim to their once promised Land since the New Testament clearly  does not formally recognize their right to the land anymore. The Old Testament Bible instructs the people of Israel how they should treat foreigners (non-Jews). Old Testament Israel was commanded to love foreigners and to let them live normal lives amongst them (Deut 10.19):”When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall do him no wrong … (he) … shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself …” (Lev 19.33,34) “And they (strangers) shall be to you as the native-born among the sons of Israel; they shall be allotted an inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel.” (Ezek 47.22)  Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!( Psalms 133:1) The Jews of today do put up any false excuse as to why  they cannot live with others, Palestinians, Arabs in Israel.

Read some more

  1. … who clearly predicted the expulsion of the Jews from Israel … wordpress.com/2009/10/01/dire-warning-of-israeli-strikes-on-iran/ http://thenonconformer

    thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/jews-arabs-none…

  2. Zionism, Zionists, Jews, Israel. August 2, 2008 by thenonconformer … is no Biblical promised prophecy, promised second return of the Jews to Israel

    postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/zionism-zionists

  3. … on it write anything bad about the jews, israel and some will slander you immediately and call you a liar, terrorists or anti semite. http://thenonconformer

    comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/the-jews-were…

  4. Messianic Jews In Israel today. July 21, 2008 by thenonconformer … nobody knows for sure how many Messianic Jews live in Israel

    postedat.wordpress.com/…/21/messianic-jews-in-israel-today –

  5. … on it write anything bad about the jews, israel and some will slander you immediately and call you a liar, terrorists or anti semite. http://thenonconformer

    thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/even-heaven…

  6. … New Testament, Palestine, politics, religion — thenonconformer @ 12:24 pm … the prophetic scriptures, dispensational views related to Israel too.. The Jews

    anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/israel-and-palestine –

  1. It is generally agreed that the historical Jesus primarily spoke Aramaic,[1] perhaps along with some Hebrew and Greek (although there is some debate as to the degree[2]). The towns of Nazareth and Capernaum, where Jesus lived, were primaril…y Aramaic-speaking communities, although Greek was widely spoken in the major cities of the Eastern Mediterranean such as Antioch and Alexandria. Jesus may have also known enough Hebrew to discuss the Hebrew Bible, and he may have known Koine Greek through commerce in nearby Sepphoris. Aramaic, as a Semitic language, was a common language of the Eastern Mediterranean during and after the Neo-Assyrian, Neo-Babylonian, and Achaemenid Empires (722 BC – 330 BC). Aramaic remained a common language of Palestine in the 1st century AD, despite the subsequent Macedonian-Greek (331 BC) and Roman (63 BC) invasions. Indeed, in spite of the increasing importance of Greek, the use of Aramaic was also expanding, and it would eventually be entirely dominant among Jews both in Palestine and elsewhere in the Middle East around 200 AD;[3] it would remain so until the Arab conquest in the 7th century.   Most of the apostles from the Galilee region also spoke Aramaic. The message of Christianity spread (primarily among Jewish Aramaic-speaking enclaves) throughout Judaea, Syria and Mesopotamia, and even to Kerala, India in Aramaic (or Syriac; Aram is the Hebrew word for Syria).[8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_of_Jesus
  2. SO THE HEBREW LANGUAGE AT THE TIME OF JESUS FOR ALL PURPOSES DIDN’T EXIST?   It is a documented fact that when the Ten Tribes of Joseph, known as “Israel or Ephraim,” were taken into “captivity” in c.800 BCE by Assyria, they ceased to exist as a seperate people because they lost their use of their Aramaic/Hebrew language and their sense of Israelite tribal identity. http://home.earthlink.net/~ecorebbe/id45.html

do see also

What does the word chosen mean in the Bible? http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/what-does-the-word-chosen-mean-in-the-bible/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/12/07/jesus-christ-the-cornerstone/

Now why was Jesus even so angry with the Pharisees http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/now-why-was-jesus-even-so-angry-with-the-pharisees/

About those Jews, persons who still falsely refuse to acknowledge openly Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior https://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/about-those-jews-persons-who-still-falsely-refuse-to-acknowledge-openly-jesus-christ-as-their-lord-and-savior/

A SABBATH REST OR A GODLY REST? http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/a-sabbath-rest-or-a-godly-rest/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/26/messianic-jews-judaizers-seventh-day-adventist/

 https://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/12/25/the-vanity-of-keeping-the-old-testament-commandments/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-false-dispensationalists-dispensationalism/

How do you recognize if a person is a true Christian, or what is a Christian?

How do you recognize if a person is a true Christian, or what is a Christian?

Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

Fishers of men”…”believers”…”Christians” These are names that describe the people who have been redeemed by Jesus and Baptized in the Holy Spirit, had committed themselves to live fully for Him

“Did Jesus Christ lie when He said that authentic believers would speak in tongues demonst…rating their salvation? Mark 16:15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16:16 “He who believes and is baptized ( with the Spirit, not water) will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. 16:17 “And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 16:18 “they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.” 16:19 So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God. 16:20 And they went out and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the word through the accompanying signs. Amen.

see http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/how-do-you-recognize-if-a-person-is-a-true-christian-or-what-is-a-christian/

https://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/many-persons-now-they-are-trying-to-change-others/

https://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/about-those-jews-persons-who-still-falsely-refuse-to-acknowledge-openly-jesus-christ-as-their-lord-and-savior/

Now how did Moses, Abraham , the great Jewish patriarchs next make it to heaven..

“God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish — not perish — but have everlasting life,” (John 3:16 KJV).

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There are few words word in the Christian vocabulary that makes people feel more uncomfortable than the words, :Jesus Christ” . “Repent”, “saved”, “Baptized with the Holy Spirit”.

Now first do face it many people who interpret Bible passages do not do so honestly for they do often have not to visible, personal hidden agendas and we always still do need God to show us the truth.

Now how did Moses, Abraham , the great Jewish patriarchs next make it to heaven.. They as per Hebrews 11 they got to heaven not by keeping the law of Moses but by putting their faith in Jesus Christ, Many Old Testament patriarchs are listed that had “died in faith, without receiving the promises, but having seen them and having welcomed them from a distance, and having confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth” obtained salvation by faith. Note one very interesting observation – those listed are Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob…and yes, Moses and Joshua, but here there is no mention of the “LAW” of Moses.

Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders obtained a good report. 3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. 4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. :5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. 7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith. 8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. 9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: 10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. 11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised. 12 Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable. 13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. 14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. 15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. 16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city. 17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son. 8 Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: 9 Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure. :20 By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come. 21 By faith Jacob, when he was a dying, blessed both the sons of Joseph; and worshipped, leaning upon the top of his staff. 22 By faith Joseph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones. 23 By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw he was a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king’s commandment. 24 By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter; :25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; 26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompense of the reward. 27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible. 28 Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them. 29 By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned. 30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days. 31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace. 32 And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets: 33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, 34 Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.35 Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection  36 And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment: 37 They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented; 38 (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth. 39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: 40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect. Heb 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us :2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

In the Old Testament, the place of the dead or the place of departed souls was called “Sheol.” It was to this place that all souls of the dead went to await resurrection. In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades (Luke 16:19-31). Hades had two separated parts. Those who died in faith believing in God’s promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham’s Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, or eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in Abraham’s Bosom.

1 Pet 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

Many Persons thus cite this text as evidence for the view that Jesus descended into hell to preach the gospel in order to save lost souls. A second view likewise suggests Christ descended to hell, not to preach the Gospel, but rather to proclaim His triumph over its inhabitants so that their condemnation was final. A third suggestion is that Christ, after His death, was sent to hell to preach to Noah’s generation (v. 20) in order that they might be set free. Yet another interpretation argues that the imprisoned spirits were fallen angels (or their offspring) from Noah’s day (see Gen. 6:1-6), who are now imprisoned in hell awaiting final destruction. Thus, Christ was sent to proclaim triumph over them.

Now the Apostles’ Creed affirmed belief in Jesus on the following terms: “Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and buried; He descended into hell, the third day He rose again from the dead” (emp. added). The Athanasian Creed states: “He suffered death for our salvation. He descended into hell and rose again from the dead”

Christ came in flesh, He also died in flesh. Yet in spirit he was made alive. When Christ rose from the dead, He did so with a new, gloried, spiritual body; the corruptible was replaced with the incorruptible, the natural with the spiritual; the one must precede the other (1 Cor. 15:42-49). So shall it be with men (1 Pet. 4:6). So it was through Christ’s glorified, resurrected, incorruptible body that He made His declaration to captive spirits. The message was not so much vocal as visual; neither did Christ descend into hell to make this proclamation The enemies of God, the evil spirit world that undoubtedly gloated at the death of Christ (consider Ps. 22:12-13, 21 cf. 1 Pet. 5:8), were suddenly and unexpectedly confronted with the Resurrected Lord! Death was vanquished and Christ was the Victor (1 Cor. 15:54-55). Satan and his hosts were faced with a horrendous realization: Christ had won. Though He suffered in the flesh He was vindicated in spirit, hence the Christological hymn in 1 Timothy 3:16 (“He who was revealed in the flesh, was vindicated in the spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.” NASB). Ephesians 4:8 says that as Christ ascended He led captive a host of captives (who now await their final judgment, 2 Pet. 2:4).

About Moses he was not saved by keeping the law of Moses. Let’s consider Moses for a moment. Moses sinned, right? He killed an Egyptian for murdering a fellow Hebrew slave (Ex 2:11-12); he smashed the first set of holy tablets containing the 10 Commandments due to his rage (Ex 32:15-19) – for this, he wasn’t allowed to enter the promised land (Deut 34:1-4); AND, while God told Moses to speak to the rock to bring water to the people , he struck the rock instead (Num 20:8 & 11). How is it Moses showed up on the mount of transfiguration with Elijah BEFORE Christ had now died, if he wasn’t “officially saved”? By his faith in Jesus the Christ of course .. is your faith in Jesus the Christ or is it wasted in the Law of Moses?

No matter what view you want to hold here it is undeniable that the people who do not accept the finished work of Jesus Christ ended up in hell. did you lose your salvation next by trying to do it the devils way. Ex 32:33 “The LORD said to Moses, ‘Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot him out of My book.’”
Mat 10:32 “Therefore everyone who confesses Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father who is in heaven.”

Luke 12:8 “And I say to you, everyone who confesses Me before men, the Son of Man will confess him also before the angels of God”

 

About those Jews, persons who still falsely refuse to acknowledge openly Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior

God made an initial  covenant promising blessings upon Abraham and Abraham’s offspring.

The Greek meaning of the word covenant is testament, or a will or promise.

We know a will or testament to be an instrument declaring a person’s (the testator’s) wishes regarding the disposal of his property after death.

The Old Testament contains God’s first testament of His will or promise.

But how was this will and testament to be carried out?

He could not die for God is a spirit. John 4:24. Well, that is why a “New” testament, Jesus Christ, was necessary.

After the preplanned death of God , through Jesus Christ, the whole New Testament contains the fulfillment of God’s testament or his past  promise in the name of Jesus Christ.   God himself came in the name of Jesus Christ to die in order that those who believe in Him might inherit His blessing according to His will and testament. John 3:16.

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In Hebrews chapter 9:15-17 this all is explained. Heb. 9:15-17 says: And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth. God, in the name of Jesus the Christ, died that we personally , even all might live forever.

Now if you do refuse His will, you have no part in Heaven, even if you are a Jew.. you too will be left out of God’s kingdom next.. and go to hell rather.. the choice is yours..

For all  of the Jewish believers in the shed blood of the Messiah  Jesus Christ, a normative Judaism is nothing short of spiritual adultery. In Romans we are told that we were made to die to the Law in order to be joined to (married to) the Messiah Jesus Christ. “Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, that we might bear fruit for God.” Romans 7:4  And the context is that of a woman who is married, i.e. she cannot (legitimately) be joined to two different husbands, except that one be dead. We are NOT our own savior, so let’s allow Jesus to be our sole Savior and let’s leave the false  religions, even Judaism to the world.  “Therefore let it be known to you, brethren, that through Him forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you and through Him everyone who believes is freed from all things, from which you could not be freed through the Law of Moses. “Take heed therefore, so that the thing spoken of in the Prophets may not come upon you… ‘Behold, you scoffers, and marvel, and perish; For I am accomplishing a work in your days, A work which you will never believe, though someone should describe it to you.’” Acts 13:38, 41

“For many walk of whom I often told you and now tell you even weeping that they are enemies of the cross of Christ, whose end is destruction whose god is their appetite and whose glory is in their shame, who set their minds on earthly things.” Philippians 3:18,19

It is a realy sad fact, in spite of the fact they may use some of the same words  other real Christians do now,  that too many professing Christians who claim they love God, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, in reality they are still not filled with the Holy Spirit even cause they have rejected the fullness of the Holy Spirit, and his gifts being applicable today, they now  falsely  have limited the Gospel as being Jesus the Savior only and they wrongfully do not teach  the full Gospel of Jesus the Christ now as well…. and they falsely emphasize the usage of Greek and the teaching of men, such as Darby, Scofield, over the Holy Spirit teaching us directly.. and those amongst them who do this they all basically do not have the Holy Spirit, are actually deceived, are now none of His.. They realy are still unsaved thus.  http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/

“YOU CANNOT PRAISE HIM IN FALSE DOCTRINE ..YOU COMMIT FORNICATION WHEN YOU ARE IN FALSE DOCTRINE …..WHEN YOU DO NOT HAVE THE HOLY GHOST YOU CANNOT WORSHIP HIM…..HE SAID THIS IN ACTS BEFORE HE LEFT UP  Mat 16:12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT BRING THE DEMONIC DOCTRINE INTO THE CHURCH …SAYING YAHWAH KEEPING THE PASSOVER THE SABBATH”

Now the Law of Moses was great while it lasted. But it had a failing; it couldn’t make any of us free from all things. It is ONLY through Jesus Himself the Person, the God/man Christ Jesus and His work on the cross that we can be set free. Observing the Law itself now cannot do it for us. “For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written, ‘Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all things written in the book of the law, to perform them.’ ” Galatians 3:10   “And I said to their children in the wilderness, ‘Do not walk in the statutes of your fathers, or keep their ordinances, or defile yourselves with their idols.” (Ezekiel 20:18) And again in verse 25, “And I gave them statutes that were not good and ordinances by which they could not live.”

There are major unacceptable New testament, Biblical. theological differences between Messianic Jews and the true Christians, the true believers.. Forwe need to recognize that God doesn’t favor one culture above another. “Jewish culture” is not only foreign to most Jews, it is also foreign to God. in Reality Judaism (and all cultural religions for that matter) looks to be like serving God, but they are not for they do  robs us of the opportunity to bond with God, to speak to Him, to know Him, to love Him, to serve on God’s own terms.  The teaching of the Pharisees (Judaism) itself  is poisonous for all believers. Either we have Jesus and His life, or we have something else and we die. “See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ.” Colossians 2:8  https://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2009/11/08/in-the-last-days-perilous-times-shall-come/

Messianic Jews they have not made the necessary step to cross over to worship Jesus as their Lord amd Savior directly yet as well ,even because they have not taken up their cross, forsaken all to follow after Jesus as well, for  being a Christian believer in Israel isn’t easy for you always feel that the rest of Jewish society isn’t accepting you. It should be understood by all that all Jews still need to be saved from their sins, Hell itself by accepting Jesus Christ as their Personal lord, Savior, and any of their Jewish cultural roots will not save them.

(Mat 23:37 KJV) O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

The New Israel is the Church.. which is now MADE UP with the old Israel.. It may surprise you to discover that the New Testament never uses the term ‘chosen’ to describe the Jewish people. It is only used of those who follow Jesus.

NOW WE VALID CHRISTIANS DO BASE THE VALID DOCTRINES ON THE NEW TESTAMENT SUBSTANTIATION BY JESUS OR THE APOSTLES, NOT JUST ON THE OLD TESTAMENT REFERENCES..

Zionists, Messianic Jews, and Jews will tend to associate more with  the Fundamental Prophetic Evangelical, Dispensationalists   over the Catholics,  Charismatics,  Pentecostals, Anglicans, Lutherans. etc., etc., since the  Evangelicals tend to give them national recognition and the promise,hope of the complete restoration of all the land of Israel to the Jews.. promises now which  are  not supported by the New Testament still. And do you have one, one New Testament verse that confirms Israel’s present return and possession of the Promised land. I am not aware of one, If you do which one is it?  It is unbelievable, undeniable  that the professing Christian people who do not know the Bible can be so easily deceived, led astray too by many others, bad pastors and Jewish persons, Zionists included.. Discovering what the Bible actually, truly  now has to say about the relationship between Israel and the Church, in history and prophecy, more then just an academic exercise.
        

BY THE WAY THERE ALSO IS NO NEW TESTAMENT REFERENCE, THAT SUBSTANTIATED THE 3RD JEWISH RETURN TO THE HOLY LAND, THE PROMISE LAND.

Too many fundamentals, professing Christians now falsely do state that the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 was prophesied in Scripture while there is no direct support of this in the New Testament Bible even still. Zionism, on the other hand, “is a secularist, largely atheistic ideology” that emerged in the late 19th century.  Now too many Christian Zionists, extremists do falsely do now believe that in order to fulfill all of the Biblical prophecy, Israel must next conquer most of the Middle East.

Messianic Jews and the Seventh day Adventists, Judaizers still do falsely teach that we must all abide by all the necessary “laws” of the Holy Bible whilst also keeping all the scriptures of Jesus commandments . The use of the word “laws” in the Old Testament Bible, specifically does specially mean the Mosaic “laws”, or the “laws” of the Torah, all the “laws” of the first 5 books of the Bible. Also when Jesus refers to the “law” he himself now means all of the 613 “laws” of the Old Covenant. This, of course, includes the Ten Commandments but is not limited to them. But the old covenant “laws” themselves were only valid until the coming of Christ firstly. True Christians do not mix the Old and New Covenants “laws”, laws as defined by the New testament, nor do they rightfully now support any of the Judaizers and their “laws”, all those persons who want to keep the Torah “laws” and just add Jesus to it. Today the entire Old Covenant “laws” was to be casted out by the Christian but we must all still follow His new teachings that are valid in the New Covenant as per (Galatians 4:21-31). The New Covenant teachings of Jesus did not include Sabbath-keeping “laws”and many other “laws”of the now obsolete Torah. True Christians believe that the “laws” has been completely abrogated and replaced with the Law of Christ.; Messianic Jews and the Seventh day Adventists, Judaizers do still try to uphold invalid laws, part of the Bible falsely do draw people away from the truth of Christ.

THE LYING Messianic Jews, and the Seventh day Adventists, Judaizers WHO PREACH PARTIALS TRUTHS AND NEW TESTAMENT BIBLICAL DISTORTIONS ARE NOT THE REAL CHRISTIANS WHO WILL GO TO HEAVEN, BUT ARE THE NON CHRISTIANS WHO WILL GO TO HELL EVEN WITH THE UNSAVED JEWS WHO REJECTED JESUS CHRIST THE MESSIAH.

The only main portion of the Bible that you really need to read, to follow is the New Testament because we are no longer under Old Testament covenant, law – essentially the the New Testament replaces the basic requirements of the Law and the Prophets of the Old Testament. Believers should still embrace the whole Word of God but now they do not follow the non applicable old testament laws, rituals. The Old Testament has been superseded by the New Testament. We are not under the old testament laws but under those laws solely in the new testament… the law of the spirit..(Rom 8:2 KJV) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

The sole basis of the Christian faith today, which is why it is also called the New Testament as well, is not at all the Old Testament Judaism but the New Testament Jesus. The true Christians since Jesus Christ next always left their old Jewish Synagogues all together… and all Christian Jews, Messianic Jews too need to do this today as well, also they are supposed to give up their Jewish roots, Jewish culture, Jewish religion when they accept Jesus Christ as their master, lord and savior . Some clerics, theologians, and scholars have worked hard to recover the supposedly historical Jewish Jesus. why? Ironically this rather was aided also by the Jews, Judaizers, even the false Christians themselves who falsely wanted it seems to promote their own self importance, the false value of the now rather false, obsolete old Judaic religion, and it’s also still the false observation of the Old testament letter of the law over the New Testament spirit of the law approach. It is an ungodly act still too.

(Acts 20:29 KJV) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.

(1 Tim 4:1 KJV) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

We are often as Christians rightfully now taught that Presently Satan even though he is subject to Christ’s authority, empowerments, Satan he is very much presently alive and active on earth, in our lives.

1 Peter 5:8 teaches us that Satan is “like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour”. But he Satan now only has as much power as we do allow him to have. We are in a war against him, we must use our weapons to fight him to overcome now all of his bad works on us too. Jesus has defeated Satan power over us at the cross, but that doesn’t prevent Satan from sending forth his evil spirits to try to steal, kill, and destroy you and all of mankind. That is what he Satan does—the battle starts in the mind and he convinces us that he has power over us. He Satan next also sends evil spirits by means of evil persons against us as well.

Matthew 16:19, “And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.“

I am not surprised that many Jews, Judaizers, Messianic Jews do not talk about or preach about the baptism of the holy spirit, speaking in tongues, spiritual gifts even because they realy do not have the holy spirit.    http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/anointed/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/now-why-was-jesus-even-so-angry-with-the-pharisees/

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http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/messianic-judaism-today/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/even-heaven-awaits-jewish-return-to-god-jesus-christ-and-rather-not-to-the-promised-earthly-land/

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http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/what-the-canadian-conservatives-do-not-say-about-israel/

https://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2010/11/02/about-those-that-hate-me-and-thee-wrongfully/

http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/a-sabbath-rest-or-a-godly-rest/

http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/more-about-control-freaks/