So what reasons do you have to support the Jews and the state of Israel?

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Heb. 9:15-17 says: And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth. God, in the name of Jesus the Christ, died that we personally , even all might live forever.

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Now if you do refuse His will, you have no part in Heaven, even if you are a Jew.. you too will be left out of God’s kingdom next.. and go to hell rather.. the choice is yours..

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For all  of the Jewish believers in the shed blood of the Messiah  Jesus Christ, a normative Judaism is nothing short of spiritual adultery

 https://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/about-those-jews-persons-who-still-falsely-refuse-to-acknowledge-openly-jesus-christ-as-their-lord-and-savior/

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Matthew 5: 17 Don’t think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete. 18 Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a stroke will pass from the Torah – not until everything that must happen has happened.
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One of the biggest lies was the Jesus, the Apostles, early Christians were Torah observant. These people don’t understand that, what has been “nailed to the cross” is our past SINS, and he Jesus Christ also had nailed God’s past Torah/Divine Instructions in Righteousness made for the Jews only! He Jesus Christ had nailed our certificate of sin’s debt for breaking His Laws to the cross and he Jesus Christ had superseded the requirements of the Jewish Torah. Any Torah observance today is a “doctrine of demons” . God gave us a new Covenant through Jesus Christ and not a renewed Yeshua Torah! Not EVERYONE even until that time who believed in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob was TORAH OBSERVANT. Read the New Testament on this everyone. Jesus Christ AND HIS DISCIPLES, APOSTLES WERE NOT a Torah observant, tallit wearing, synagogue attending, Sabbath and feast-keeping, kosher Jews who observed the seven commanded holy days. They were next even kicked out of the synagogues for not being so. And Jewish Messiah “Jesus” was not given given Hebrew name when Yeshua but his Greek name cause under the Greek and Romans everyone in Galilee as well they mostly spoke Greek or Aramaic, even Jesus’ adopted father Joseph. Liars, Perverts and Fools like to quote mostly old Testament verse and isolated out of context New testament verses to support their false demands that everyone still has to keep all of the Torah’s s demands..neglecting key verses that say otherwise..

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Some of Jewish Christians considered Jesus the saving Messiah, but insisted on all for the continued observance of the Jewish laws about ceremony, diet, conflict, and circumcision.  Acts and the  letter of 1 Peter depict Apostle Peter as Pauline, most scholars think he was a past Jew like the Apostle James, as did the Apostle Paul  and  the Apostle Paul openly, clearly rejected the authority of the Torah, he wrote against Jewish Christians in 3 of his 7  letters. This is the main subject of Galatians, and he also warns against “dogs” who insist on circumcision in Phil. 3:2-3, and against false  “super apostles” who boast of being “Hebrews” and “Israelites” in 2 Cor. 11:5 and 22-23.  The author of Mark also  was   an ex Jew  but now a Christian.  Note Mark’s story about Jesus discussing food,  Mark’s note about Jesus declaring all foods clean.

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Mark 7:
1 Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem.
2 And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.
3 For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.
4 And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.
5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
14 And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand:
15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
17 And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable.
18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
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It is impossible to know what the earliest varieties of  Judaic Christianity looked like. We have no relevant physical evidence at all except Apostle’s Paul’s letters. Real  Christianity came to dominance, but Jewish Christianity remained uninfluential.Judaism, any Jewish Christianity suffered a great blow from the Jewish-Roman wars of of 66 and 132 CE, during which the Jewish Temple was destroyed and all of the Jews    were scattered and the incredible success of the Gentile mission led by Paul. In  the fourth century, the Council of  Nicea  and the formation of the New Testament canon decided forever what Christianity was, and it was not Jewish Christianity.

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Romans 8
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
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Romans 4
13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

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Galatians 3
17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

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Acts 15
5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

John 1
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

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Matthew 12
4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?

10 And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.

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John 5
10 The Jews therefore said unto him that was cured, It is the sabbath day: it is not lawful for thee to carry thy bed.

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Hebrews 7
11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

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ALSO ABOUT WALL STREET AND THE RISE OF HITLER The nation of Israel was put back on the map in 1948 by the Rothschild’s  led banking cabal. William Guy Carr in his timeless book, PAWNS IN THE GAME, documents the history of the international banking cartel and how they’ve started and financed BOTH sides of every major war in America since the Revolutionary War of 1776 ). Truth is stranger than fiction! Present-day Israel is controlled by Marxists and Communists, haters of Christ and the Bible.

http://www.jesusisprecious.org/evils_in_government/pawns_in_the_game.htm

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Christians Ought Not Support the Marxist Secular State of Israel. It is also hypocritical for Christian Zionists to threaten the wrath of God against those who express disagreement with any policy of the Israeli government when they have done the same thing themselves. And  who is really “blessing Israel;” those who are working for peace in the Middle East, or those who are agitating for a war designed to get two-thirds of all Jews wiped out?  Gershom Gorenberg, in his book “The End of Days: Fundamentalism and the Struggle for the Temple Mount,” says, “I’ve listened to….  American evangelical ministers who insist on their deep love for Israel and nevertheless eagerly await apocalyptic battles on Israel’s soil so terrible that the dry river bed will, they predict, fill with rivers of blood.” 

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Zionism is based on a total misunderstanding of what the Bible teaches. It is true that God gave Palestine to Hebrews in ancient times. But the Bible teaches that their possession of the land was under a conditional covenant with Jehovah. If the Hebrews disobeyed their God, they would lose the land. This is clearly taught in Genesis 17:9-14, Exodus 19:4-5, Leviticus 26:40-45, Deuteronomy 7:12, Joshua 23:15-16, 1 Kings 9:6-9, 2 Chronicles 7:19-22, Jeremiah 34:12-22, Ezekiel 33:23-29, Matthew 21:43, etc.  When the Jews rejected their Messiah, God sent the Romans to dispossess the Jews from their land in 70 AD. This was God’s complete punishment on the Jews for crucifying Christ – therefore, the Jews today should not be persecuted for something that happened 2000 years ago. However, their former title deed on the land of Palestine is not abrogated.  The New Testament teaches that Christians are to focus on the heavenly Jerusalem, not the earthly one, John 4:21, Galatians 4:24-28, Hebrews 12:18-24. We are told in Hebrews 11:13-16 that even Abraham has no further interest in a restored Jewish state on earth, because he is in a much better place in heaven.

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Much of our Christian emphasis on foreign policy in the Middle East today is based on the promise that God made to Abraham in Genesis 12:3, “And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.” The first half of this verse is a promise that God made to just one person, Abraham. The original Hebrew is in the second person singular, meaning that God is speaking only to Abraham. The King James Version correctly reflects this grammatical construction, since “thee” is singular, referring only to one person, whereas “ye” would refer to multiple persons.   When it is pointed out that the various Arabs nations, including Palestine, are also descended from Abraham, the Christian Zionists say that the promise of Genesis 12:3 applies only to the descendants of Isaac (Of course, there is no mention of Isaac in Genesis 12:3. They often misquote the verse, saying it refers to “blessing Israel,” but Israel is not mentioned in the verse either). Zionists say, based on their non-literal, speculative, spiritualized interpretation of Genesis 12:3, that we are to give total, unquestioned support to some of Abraham’s children, while others of Abraham’s children are to be hated, persecuted, ethnically cleansed, bombed back into the Stone Age, maybe even nuked.  But in Genesis 21:13, 17-18 God also bestows His blessing on Ishmael and his descendants, saying, “For I will make him a great nation.” According to the same principles of interpretation by which we have made Genesis 12:3 a command for political support of the modern nation of Israel, Genesis 21:18 must be taken as a command for political support of the modern Arab nations. (Anybody want to start up a “Christian Ishmaelist” movement to lobby for Arab national greatness?)

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So what reasons do you have to support the Jews and the state of Israel?

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Do they thank God for restoring their nation after 1,878 years of exile? (the year 1948 A.D. minus 1,978 = A.D. 70, the year Rome destroyed Jerusalem). The Jews were forced into exile. The notion that unsaved, Christ-rejecting, Jews have been restored to their homeland is totally false and unbiblical.

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Just as Abraham and Sarah took matters into their own hands, doubting God’s promise to give Sarah a son, trying to force God instead to bless Ishmael, which He refused; likewise, Communist-Marxist false Khazar Jews put Israel back on the map in 1948 through military brutality, indoctrinating U.S. churches to believe that God was behind their manmade restoration of the secular state of Israel, demanding for God to bless it. It doesn’t work that way. The Bible plainly teaches in Luke 21:24, “And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.” You just read it for yourself, Israel shall be trodden down by the Gentiles until the Lord Jesus Christ returns at the Rapture (which is when the Times of the Gentiles will end). We are now living in the Church age.

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John 4:19-24
19 The woman said to Him, “Sir, I perceive that You are a prophet.
20 “Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, and you Jews say that in Jerusalem is the place where one ought to worship.”
21 Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father.
22 “You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews.
23 ” But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
24 “God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”
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Jesus had prophesied that the Mosaic dispensation was closing, and a new way of worship was about to commence, that of worshipping “in spirit and in truth.”

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Mark 8

38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

Luke 9
26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father’s, and of the holy angels.

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Romans 1
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

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Romans 9
33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

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Romans 10
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

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Philippians 1
20 According to my earnest expectation and my hope, that in nothing I shall be ashamed, but that with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether it be by life, or by death.

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2 Timothy 1
8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;

12 For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

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Titus 2
8 Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you.

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Hebrews 11
16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

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1 Peter 4
16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

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1 John 2
28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

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see also

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Doctrines/Zionism/zionism.htm.

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About thenonconformer
I am a Canadian, retired and I do have an Engineering degree, from Concordia University , Montreal 1968, plus I had also now worked as a Re/Max Realtor in Calgary too.

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