Now how did Moses, Abraham , the great Jewish patriarchs next make it to heaven..

“God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish — not perish — but have everlasting life,” (John 3:16 KJV).


There are few words word in the Christian vocabulary that makes people feel more uncomfortable than the words, :Jesus Christ” . “Repent”, “saved”, “Baptized with the Holy Spirit”.

Now first do face it many people who interpret Bible passages do not do so honestly for they do often have not to visible, personal hidden agendas and we always still do need God to show us the truth.

Now how did Moses, Abraham , the great Jewish patriarchs next make it to heaven.. They as per Hebrews 11 they got to heaven not by keeping the law of Moses but by putting their faith in Jesus Christ, Many Old Testament patriarchs are listed that had “died in faith, without receiving the promises, but having seen them and having welcomed them from a distance, and having confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth” obtained salvation by faith. Note one very interesting observation – those listed are Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob…and yes, Moses and Joshua, but here there is no mention of the “LAW” of Moses.

Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders obtained a good report. 3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. 4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. :5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. 7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith. 8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. 9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: 10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. 11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised. 12 Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable. 13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. 14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. 15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. 16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city. 17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son. 8 Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: 9 Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure. :20 By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come. 21 By faith Jacob, when he was a dying, blessed both the sons of Joseph; and worshipped, leaning upon the top of his staff. 22 By faith Joseph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones. 23 By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw he was a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king’s commandment. 24 By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter; :25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; 26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompense of the reward. 27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible. 28 Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them. 29 By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned. 30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days. 31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace. 32 And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets: 33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, 34 Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.35 Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection  36 And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment: 37 They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented; 38 (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth. 39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: 40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect. Heb 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us :2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

In the Old Testament, the place of the dead or the place of departed souls was called “Sheol.” It was to this place that all souls of the dead went to await resurrection. In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades (Luke 16:19-31). Hades had two separated parts. Those who died in faith believing in God’s promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham’s Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, or eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in Abraham’s Bosom.

1 Pet 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

Many Persons thus cite this text as evidence for the view that Jesus descended into hell to preach the gospel in order to save lost souls. A second view likewise suggests Christ descended to hell, not to preach the Gospel, but rather to proclaim His triumph over its inhabitants so that their condemnation was final. A third suggestion is that Christ, after His death, was sent to hell to preach to Noah’s generation (v. 20) in order that they might be set free. Yet another interpretation argues that the imprisoned spirits were fallen angels (or their offspring) from Noah’s day (see Gen. 6:1-6), who are now imprisoned in hell awaiting final destruction. Thus, Christ was sent to proclaim triumph over them.

Now the Apostles’ Creed affirmed belief in Jesus on the following terms: “Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and buried; He descended into hell, the third day He rose again from the dead” (emp. added). The Athanasian Creed states: “He suffered death for our salvation. He descended into hell and rose again from the dead”

Christ came in flesh, He also died in flesh. Yet in spirit he was made alive. When Christ rose from the dead, He did so with a new, gloried, spiritual body; the corruptible was replaced with the incorruptible, the natural with the spiritual; the one must precede the other (1 Cor. 15:42-49). So shall it be with men (1 Pet. 4:6). So it was through Christ’s glorified, resurrected, incorruptible body that He made His declaration to captive spirits. The message was not so much vocal as visual; neither did Christ descend into hell to make this proclamation The enemies of God, the evil spirit world that undoubtedly gloated at the death of Christ (consider Ps. 22:12-13, 21 cf. 1 Pet. 5:8), were suddenly and unexpectedly confronted with the Resurrected Lord! Death was vanquished and Christ was the Victor (1 Cor. 15:54-55). Satan and his hosts were faced with a horrendous realization: Christ had won. Though He suffered in the flesh He was vindicated in spirit, hence the Christological hymn in 1 Timothy 3:16 (“He who was revealed in the flesh, was vindicated in the spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.” NASB). Ephesians 4:8 says that as Christ ascended He led captive a host of captives (who now await their final judgment, 2 Pet. 2:4).

About Moses he was not saved by keeping the law of Moses. Let’s consider Moses for a moment. Moses sinned, right? He killed an Egyptian for murdering a fellow Hebrew slave (Ex 2:11-12); he smashed the first set of holy tablets containing the 10 Commandments due to his rage (Ex 32:15-19) – for this, he wasn’t allowed to enter the promised land (Deut 34:1-4); AND, while God told Moses to speak to the rock to bring water to the people , he struck the rock instead (Num 20:8 & 11). How is it Moses showed up on the mount of transfiguration with Elijah BEFORE Christ had now died, if he wasn’t “officially saved”? By his faith in Jesus the Christ of course .. is your faith in Jesus the Christ or is it wasted in the Law of Moses?

No matter what view you want to hold here it is undeniable that the people who do not accept the finished work of Jesus Christ ended up in hell. did you lose your salvation next by trying to do it the devils way. Ex 32:33 “The LORD said to Moses, ‘Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot him out of My book.’”
Mat 10:32 “Therefore everyone who confesses Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father who is in heaven.”

Luke 12:8 “And I say to you, everyone who confesses Me before men, the Son of Man will confess him also before the angels of God”


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